Tesla quietly launches model Y (juniper)
Borrowing design cues from the Cybertruck.
Available on the AU website now:
https://www.tesla.com/en_au/modely
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Borrowing design cues from the Cybertruck.
Available on the AU website now:
https://www.tesla.com/en_au/modely
It looks less shit.
Lol at the claim of complete redesign
I couldn’t tell the difference initially 😂 then went ooh the lights.
Looks like indicator stalks are still present.
Thank god
Interesting. Looks like the indicator stalk is there but not the PRNDL
There’s now a feature that anticipates which direction you want to go (e.g if you’ve parked facing a wall, it’ll suggest reverse), so now reverse park and drive has moved to the screen
There are also buttons on the roof panel I think.
I can't say I'd ever like a feature like that, you know it's going to work well enough to build a habit of relying on it but it's bound to fail once.....
I wonder if they’ll bring them back to the model 3? Surely most people would prefer that?
But no mechanical interior handles? I wonder if this is the model that the couple of families burnt in because unable to open doors?
Did a search and you're right i think.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/four-dead-after-being-trapped-inside-burning-tesla
I do think electronic door releases are silly and not needed. I don't know why people have not learnt given we have known they are silly since for over 10 years when Corvette did this and a guy died.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/articles/man-dog-die-corvette-trapped-inside/
There are still mechanical emergency releases unless they've removed them. But they're in the door pockets from memory, or behind the speaker grille, not something you'll look for in a crash.
Am I the only one who thinks this is weirdly expensive? A 10k price jump seems a lot especially when more and more good Chinese options are popping up and hurting their market share. I'd take a long range Xpeng over one of these and save the $10k
I’d say there will be healthy discounts once existing inventory is sold and all the Tesla fan boys and girls have ordered the latest and greatest at full price.
Yeah fair enough. I was just surprised considering the model 3 facelift launched at the same price as the prefacelift
The model 3 has never sold as well though. Even this year, the Model Y sold about 4K more units than Model 3 despite not being updated, everyone waiting for an update and it costing more.
They know that Model 3 needs to be priced sharply to compete but that they can afford to charge a bit more for Model Y given the popularity
But you'd think that considering model y sales have been consistently dropping recently due to cheaper competitors that tesla would at least keep their pricing the same. If they can do it with one model they can do it with the other
Our dollar has also tanked pretty bad lately, may also have something to do with it.
Yeah that's fair enough but especially with the way Elon has been acting I don't see it selling as well as it once did now that it costs more than competitors
I would never ever want to put another dollar in that man’s pocket.
Also true! I love my Model 3, been amazing but I got it years ago when Elon was still semi normal. He needs to go, I think the company could go places without him holding it back.
Pretty much. Seems that his bloody mindedness has led to some odd decisions around some tesla products not to mention I just hate him
tesla still have the best software+hardware integration and the pricing is now back to roughly where it was before they started aggressively cutting so I don't think it's too far off
I'd argue that tesla no longer has that big of a lead over competitors anymore. The Xpeng I test drove has excellent software, an autopilot competitor as standard and a SIGNIFICANTLY more premium feeling interior with an actual screen in front of me so I didn't really see any flaws in the software+hardware integration unless I'm missing something
Still a 12 month log book servicing requirement for Xpeng equating to $400 per year over the first five years, they have partnered with ultra tune to deliver this service. I prefer teslas servicing model, although the four year warranty period seems a big short. https://xpeng.com.au/g6-service
Yeah, but that still doesn't make up for the price gulf especially considering I prefer the Xpeng to the tesla
Xpeng..sounds like a dodgy AliExpress tablet...
Yeah the name does sound really Chinese. They do make good cars though
I drive a polestar 4 so I'm not some fan boy but I still think tesla still has a significant lead over competitors on the software side. The app is way more featured than competitors, the autonomous driving is way ahead albeit nerfed here. I appreciate some of the design decisions aren't for everyone though.
I'm not sure about the app but afaik Xpeng has one of the best autopilot suites in China and it's standard on AU market G6s
On the app side all I know is you can do a straight summon from the app but we won't know until more are delivered to customers
Tesla's FSD while not without its faults is widely considered the best easily though. I've used it in the US and I can see how it's life-changing. I have US friends that do 80-90% of their commute on FSD. I don't think anyone else can come close to that.
the app also has way more telemetry than any competitors I know of.
anyway, I realise not everyone cares about software integration and just want the car and that's fine. But there's a big gap between tesla and the rest IMO.
Long range is about the same price as before, with acceleration boost thrown in?
Yes but the standard range rwd is by far the best selling variant and it now costs $7k more.
Maybe 5k more when you consider the paint colour is ‘free’
Hello troll....sick psot
Where do you see 10k? long range is about the same amount compared to old version
Yes the long range is similarly priced but they never sold nearly as well as the rwd so I used the volume seller as a point of comparison. For the rwd it's about a $8k price increase which I rounded to $10k because it's a nice round figure
It does look better. But I'd rather just not have a car than give Elon one cent of my money.
Hired the old model I loved it and wanted to to buy one. Just no fucking way I was going to give him my business
Slaps BYD bumper on old Tesla, "look new car!"
Rather buy a BYD or Opal card.
Family member got a BYd seal. It’s the first time I’ve used voice commands to do shit and have it actually work most of the time lmao. It’s a great car to drive as well.
If you don't like it, buy a BYD.
Ultimately, the decision on pricing will be determined by sales.
I think the Sealion looks better, more like a normal car tbh. Full EV Sealion 7 coming mid-Feb, its a Model Y killer I reckon.
Price will decide the killing. If it's sub 60k for 450km range it will sell good if it is 55k it'll blow the model Y out of the water.
Too late, everyone knows about Elon now
So true. One has to ingest teslas sales have suffered
think they went a bit too Cyber trucky with the light bars but looks decent. A 3 style refresh would have looked nicer IMO.
will be the new bar for the mid sized EV segment now.
Anything related to Elon being done quietly is a surprise.
I'll buy if Elon promises to fuck off to hell.
I like the new design, i think we'll get one in black, i'm hoping they have test devices in Australia soon , looking at BYD Sealion 7, Tesla Model refresh and the Xpeng G6. I don't know much about Xpeng, so most likely between Model Y and Sealion
They don’t come in black yet..
have you been on the site yet?
that's Stealth Grey, u/Meesjustbrowsing prolly means Solid Black.
Your right, man looks black to me !
Anyone see anything on it about power-share / v2h?
Looks like xpeng
They seem decent cars, but I couldn’t be seen driving a Tesla
Who cares what people think about the car you drive?
These cars are strongly linked to Elon. That was his doing. And I agree I simply could not buy a Tesla.
I don’t care what car I drive. For example I’d happily drive a 20 year old falcon and not care.
I more mean that driving a Tesla now has certain political attachments.
Why because you might actually like it .. best car I have driven and I’ve driven a lot … nothing quite compares to the driving experience as a Tesla… once you go there - there is no coming back.
EV6 drives much better
Yeah , Nah.
Nah, yeah.
Model Y is notorious for having bad ride and handling, EV6 is the opposite.
I posted this yesterday and it was removed by the mods for 'not being related to cars or Australia'. Go figure.
Model
Why?
I’d buy one, get it in quicksilver
Going to see an entire bar bright at night
Doesn't look the best. Will see if there is a long range model Ys on old inventory...
Doesnt look like it, mostly gone
SUVs sell, but on road 25K+ over the M3 is brave
I was going to buy a Ford - but Jim Farley is a wanker.
Until they do a redesign, I couldn't give two shits. Other manufacturers are making far nicer cars.
Yeah I'm sure it's a decent car I just don't like the styling at all
Surprised that taillight system is ADR compliant. Once some dirt builds up in there, it'll be hard to see
If you don't like it, buy a BYD.
Ultimately, the decision on pricing will be determined by sales.
Nothing to do with this car, but can someone explain the Elon Musk hate to me as if I were a child. Is it all political? I’m not considering an EV, but it’s clear that many Tesla owners wouldn’t renew with the same brand because of him. I’m not defending him, genuinely curious.
The whole political angle is going to be behind most of it and it's super polarising. Some will love his shift to the right. Other will hate it. From a business perspective it seems kind of stupid. As Michael Jordan famously said, "republicans buy sneakers too".
I just don't like the dude because he seems like a snake oil salesmen and don't trust him. Full self driving one year away every year for the last decade? Robots that don't actually exist will be in everyone's house in 2 years? People on Mars by the end of the decade? It's all hype with that guy.
100% agree with the snake oil salesman part. Loves the attention too. Also, I agree that aligning himself with a political party is very risky, particularly given that the right would (generally speaking) be anti EV. But also, is China any ethically better than he is? Again, generalising I know
Do you have the Internet?
It's all social signalling.
They don't want their friends to think they support Musk. Fair enough whatever.
What makes no sense is the idea that buying a product means you support the political leanings of the CEO.
It’s all the butt hurt woke people out there that don’t like him.. but has nothing to do with the car - name every ceo of a car company - most wouldn’t be able to… he is a very smart man , yeah a little strange at times doesn’t mean he is a bad person.. if it weren’t for him we wouldn’t have the Rockets going to space or starlink etc.. like people just need to grow up - he is who he is .. meh.
Great bloke apart from being a facist sympathiser..
Should go buy a German car, still around today thanks to some super ethical great guy back in the day used to fund them and ride around in them. You know the one. Maybe buy a car from China? Hear they’re super ethical.
Everyone is suddenly so ethical when it comes to Elon, but they’ll buy sweatshop iPhones and cars which exist today because the literal WW2 Nazi party funded them lol.
Edit: or also any car being heavily subsidied by China lol, still got re education camps to this day
if it weren’t for him we wouldn’t have the Rockets going to space or starlink etc.
Lmao he didn't program the satellites or design the rockets himself
I'm centre-right, and this guy is vile.
Somehow, that now makes me "woke"....
The one that automatically springs to mind to name one is Jim Farley, dude is a fucking car nut, not just with Ford's, but his extensive collection apparently has many great American, and quote a few global platforms.
Apparently tried to buy Leno's Chrysler Turbine a few years back after it was damaged, and when Leno refused to part with it, even offered Ford Engineers to help source and make parts when Chrysler initially refused.
Dude routinely road trips rather than air travel, will often be found out in the wild at random gas stations, truck stops, or charging stations testing prototypes, is always happy to chat, and if it's not a secret project, will happily let you see the car and even takes people for a run around the block if he has time.
Does it have crematorium mode?
Yawn… Thank you, next!
I don’t care if it can give me a blow job. There’s no way I’m letting that cunt have a single cent from me.
You just know this car was designed to be the cheapest possible in every way. Elon is very proud of trying to "eliminate" parts
Kia really thought the EV5 could compete
Who honestly fucken cares.
Looks alright